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shazgeoff

shazgeoff


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PostSubject: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 6:22 pm

Sad Well its not good news.She has a splint on front leg of which the owner said has only just come up and is slightly lame from it.Also she is slightly bench kneed,not sure on what that is.I think its over at the knees over here.SO i wont be getting her,back to the drawing board. No No
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shazgeoff

shazgeoff


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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 6:40 pm

pics of front legs,but i cant see bench knees
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denibun




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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 6:42 pm

awwww....i'm so sorry. I know you're frustrated, but hang in there.
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shazgeoff

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 6:47 pm

The vet advised i get more pictures of the splint and knees and cannon bones.I dont think her knees look to bad.She is also lame which the vet thinks is from the splint as its a fresh one from about a week ago.

Do you think i should look elsewhere?
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Kidd Kuhlmann

Kidd Kuhlmann


Number of posts : 942
Age : 41
Location : Hempstead, TX
Registration date : 2007-02-12

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 7:11 pm

I would be curious as to why a splint popped up...
A change in angles from hoof trimming, concussion to that specific spot or just soft bones can cause splints (as far as I know and I'm not an expert)...

Bench kneed isn't a HUGE problem - it does affect the length of stride but unless it is severe it isn't noticable in movement. She isn't severely bench kneed...she is very slight from the pics.

Where is the splint? And how big?
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REINING CHICK

REINING CHICK


Number of posts : 343
Age : 44
Location : ARIZONA
Registration date : 2007-02-12

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 7:15 pm

if your heart wasnt set on her. id look else were.......
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RoperChick

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Location : California
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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 7:37 pm

I didn't notice it until you mentioned it, but she does appear to be a little bench kneed. My understanding is that bench knees are where the cannon bones are set too far outside the knee. A horse with bench knees can be more prone to splints. Splints aren't normally a problem once they heal, but if they are in a spot where they grow over the tendon, then they are a problem and the only way to fix it is through surgery.

It's ashame problems were found in the PP exam, she is a nice looking mare. But... if I remember correctly, she's not even broke yet and has soundess issues. Without spending lots of $, there's probably no sure way to tell if the splint is all or part of the lameness. If it were me, I would keep looking.

Wanted to add, that I had a horse with great conformation pop splints, we rested him until they healed, but he was never lame.
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Bluejay

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 7:55 pm

Her right front knee looks out of place and turned out. The leg does not look striaght.. As far as the slint goes those can go away. I have never seen a horse lame from a one though. A splint can also make the leg stronger when it heals up.. Splints are genrally caused by ponding the ground too hard.. I have a few that got them from running and bucking so hard. They also went away or blended in to the cannon bone and you cannot see them. Never lame from them. I find this to happens more in a horse that is heavy.. Rolling Eyes

I would not worry about the splint. It's likely she is lame for some other reason that could very well be temporary and she is just having a bad day. This is a big problem with vet checks.. They only see the horse for a few mintutes one day. Any horse can be sore and then get over it the next day.. study

The front right leg being out of alingnment will not change though and would not be something I would invest in. It's too bad the people did not tell you this before you spent the money on the vet check. Seems dishonest and I would not do business with them. They could have told you this before you spent the money. No
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Triple J Quarter Horses

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 8:37 pm

My mare has one, but is as sound as a dollar, never took a lame step and its a big one. They dont bother me. As long as they arent lame on them. Ive had several pop them but not go lame.
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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 23rd 2008, 10:26 pm

Posting for my husband here -
He likes the mare a lot but he thinks the splint popped for conformational reasons...he said it looks like she is a little posty up front and the way she hits the ground could make it happen.

We've had several splints around here and they aren't terrible to deal with and they are fine once they heal - they CAN leave an ugly little bump on the leg though (not sure how this would affect a show horse).

Splints are treated much like shin-bucks (though they are different)...we blister them both which can-depending on the horse-result in a scar (we had one that scarred like a sonofagun but most don't...and the one that did I put MTG on it and lo-and-behold-we had hair and no scar)
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shazgeoff

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 4:27 am

Thanks guys,im gutted as i really liked,But she has to be conformationaly correct for me,i really want to do Halter and if a judge saw her in a line up of say 2 and cant make his mind up,i would be the one that came second.If you get my drift.

Im going to let her go. Sad Sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad pale
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RoperChick

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 4:41 am

shazgeoff wrote:
Thanks guys,im gutted as i really liked,But she has to be conformationaly correct for me,i really want to do Halter and if a judge saw her in a line up of say 2 and cant make his mind up,i would be the one that came second.If you get my drift.

Im going to let her go. Sad Sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad pale

I know how hard that is to walk away when you really like a horse. I've had to do that myself a few times and it never gets easier.
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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 9:11 am

I'm sorry to hear this. I liked that filly. Splints - you ought to see Jazz's, as Bluejay has... one day they weren't there, one day they were... hitting this hard ground as the big fat heifer goes flying through the pasture.

Nice filly, though, maybe they'd reduce the price like oh, $1,500 or so... HA!
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shazgeoff

shazgeoff


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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 9:45 am

im stuck between a rock and a hard place as i really liked her. Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
But i really want to do the Halter side of things as well as ride.I also love her coloring.

Maybe i should just stick to trying to find that pally mare i was trying to find scratch scratch scratch
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REINING CHICK

REINING CHICK


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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 1:17 pm

be patient youll find your horse! just dont buy the first thing that you see. trust me i have this problem of just buying horses LOL. lol! icecream
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Triple J Quarter Horses

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 5:30 pm

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RoperChick

RoperChick


Number of posts : 181
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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 5:43 pm

Wow JJJ, you've been busy, you found some nice ones there.
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REINING CHICK

REINING CHICK


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Location : Morristown, AZ
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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 24th 2008, 10:17 pm

A bench kneed horse is always going to be prone to splints, it's a proven fact. Bench kneed is just where the cannon bone does not extend from the knee in the center, but rather towards the outside. A rule of thumb with conformational problems, is when you look at them, try to bring the leg back to the normal, and that side is where you will have the problem. Like, if she was over at the knees, you would have to push the knee back to be normal, therefore you would have problems at the back of the knee most often. Fresh splints can cause mild lameness, but once hardened and healed, should not cause a problems unless, like Lynn said, they heal near a tendon. If you're looking for a halter mare, and more importantly, something to breed, I would make conformation, especially of the legs and hooves, my first priority. It's much easier to get something with clean straight legs from the start than to get something without and have to fix it and deal with it later.... Sorry for the long explanation, we're studying leg problems in health and disease mgt. this next few weeks.
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shazgeoff

shazgeoff


Number of posts : 850
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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2008, 8:45 am

Thanks guys i like these.
http://aqha.equine.com/Horses/ad_details.aspx?lid=486655&search_id=984ffc65-21e7-431d-8325-dee4f8775396&p=16
there is update pics of this mare on dreamhorse,funny but she dont look the same,she has matured nicely.



http://aqha.equine.com/Horses/ad_details.aspx?lid=572636&search_id=984ffc65-21e7-431d-8325-dee4f8775396&p=4
she a bit expensive though

I still like this one
http://equine.com/Horses/ad_details.aspx?lid=547658&search_id=de0bc7e4-a360-4590-b862-36de72aaa5f2&p=3

Ive emailed the first one several times and ive also asked for a video but nothing i did at first but then it went all quiet.Like i said some people have a problem with the fact im in England.If they want to sell the mare surely they can get a video done and put on You Tube so easy now in this day and age and im useless with pooters.
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Triple J Quarter Horses

Triple J Quarter Horses


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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2008, 11:22 am

http://aqha.equine.com/Horses/ad_details.aspx?lid=546203&search_id=984ffc65-21e7-431d-8325-dee4f8775396&p=8


Ive seen this mare in person, She is huge! Kick butt in halter kind of mare.
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shazgeoff

shazgeoff


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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2008, 11:36 am

I grant you she is huge,but not sure on the way her neck tyies in with her shoulder.looks heavy
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RoperChick

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2008, 12:10 pm

shazgeoff wrote:
I grant you she is huge,but not sure on the way her neck tyies in with her shoulder.looks heavy

Yah, me either, I think her neck ties in way too low.
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RoperChick

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http://aqha.equine.com/Horses/ad_details.aspx?lid=486655&search_id=984ffc65-21e7-431d-8325-dee4f8775396&p=16

Is this the one that's not responding? Do you want me to email them? Maybe the'll respond to me since I'm in the states.
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shazgeoff

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PostSubject: Re: Vetting results so far   Vetting results so far Icon_minitimeJanuary 25th 2008, 3:04 pm

Yep thats the one.Here is her link in Dream horse
http://dreamhorse.com/show_horse.php?form_horse_id=1154519
Amazing the difference huh.
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