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Triple J Quarter Horses
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reiningfan

reiningfan


Number of posts : 699
Age : 49
Location : Manitoba, Canada
Registration date : 2007-02-13

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PostSubject: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 6th 2009, 1:40 pm

I was supposed to be breeding to this stallion www.sbrformulaone.com, but with increased regulations about shipping semen over the border, we can't do it this year. I'm keeping our booking and will hopefully be able to breed Freckles to him next spring.
Has CEM affected any of you at all?
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Mare

Mare


Number of posts : 522
Age : 62
Location : Montana
Registration date : 2007-04-16

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 6th 2009, 2:16 pm

I really like him. I have been watching him for the last couple years.
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Triple J Quarter Horses

Triple J Quarter Horses


Number of posts : 2228
Age : 64
Location : Western Kentucky
Registration date : 2007-02-08

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 6th 2009, 2:46 pm

If he has tested Neg. I dont understand why this would be an issue. Do they not want to do the 3 test mares and go to the expense of doing the testing?
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REINING CHICK

REINING CHICK


Number of posts : 343
Age : 44
Location : ARIZONA
Registration date : 2007-02-12

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 6th 2009, 2:55 pm

THAT HORSE is extremely nice! i had a chance to buy one of his babies last year and the dam was out of shining spark. stupid me i bought a lame halter horse.
i kick myself every time. but ended up i bought a apha reining stud colt for basically nothing and hes out of a cutter bill daughter. and looks like a gunner baby

but anyways buckey as they call him is really nice!
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reiningfan

reiningfan


Number of posts : 699
Age : 49
Location : Manitoba, Canada
Registration date : 2007-02-13

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 6th 2009, 3:20 pm

It has to do with the vet doing the work needing to be certified to do so. If we were in the states, it would be ok, but being up here in Canada makes it really expensive for her to get any semen to us. Also, by the time the testing would be finished, my breeding season would be over. I want early enough babies that my mares can be back in work and in reasonable condition by show season. Our mares don't just have babies, they show, do 4-H lessons and trail riding as well.
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Bluejay

Bluejay


Number of posts : 2415
Age : 68
Location : Oregon
Registration date : 2007-02-07

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 8th 2009, 9:38 pm

OK, I am a dummy.. What is CEM? scratch
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Merikle Waters

Merikle Waters


Number of posts : 690
Age : 83
Location : At A Horse Show :P
Registration date : 2007-02-08

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 9th 2009, 12:04 am

Bluejay wrote:
OK, I am a dummy.. What is CEM? scratch

you're not alone... I don't know what this is either....

glad you decided to go with him tho RF. Very Happy Glad I was able to find him... although im sure he would have been spotted on HD sooner or later with his mommy being there. If I had the right mare, I'd surely be breeding to him.
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Triple J Quarter Horses

Triple J Quarter Horses


Number of posts : 2228
Age : 64
Location : Western Kentucky
Registration date : 2007-02-08

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 9th 2009, 11:30 am

Well its an STD in horses. It has hit hard, I think its been like 20 plus years since there has been an out break in the US which was brought here by a horse from from the UK.

Once a stallion has been tested postive. Which by the way, some WORLD CHAMPIONS did test postive. There is a treatment of for this not life threaten or anything. Just a pain the the well, Um Hummm... Once he has gone threw treatment he then has to breed 3 mares for tests and if they come back Neg. Then he is considered clear. The mare he has bred all have to go threw testing as well. To tranport one of the horses, the trailor has to be sealed by an vet and can not be unloaded unless a vet is present. Only certain farms have been approved for these effected mares to foal out in. Degraff stables is where the first CEM stallion was found. Not saying it started there but due to the USDA testing frozen semem to be shipped overseas it was found. It has became a very costly to all involved to mare owners and stallion owners.

Article on it, in the first stages of the news.
Lexington, Ky. -- State officials are asking the U.S. Department of Agriculture to declare a state of emergency in Kentucky following the discovery of three cases of contagious equine metritis (CEM), a venereal disease that causes infertility in mares.
The state also seeks federal funds to combat the disease, first found Dec. 10 in a 16-year-old Quarter Horse stallion on a central Kentucky farm during routine testing prior to shipping frozen semen to Europe. The horse had been moved to Kentucky from Texas nearly a year ago. Two other stallions on the same farm, a 13-year-old Quarter Horse and a 4-year-old American Paint, tested postive several days later. All three horses, and other exposed horses, are under quarantine.

CEM, usually transmitted through sexual contact, artificial insemination and sometimes by contact with hands or objects, causes infertility in mares and may cause them to spontaneously abort. Infected stallions can carry the bacterium for years without showing signs. It is treatable with antibiotics and disinfectants. Kentucky requires infected horses to go through a treatment protocol and remain in quarantine at least 21 days or until they test negative for the disease.

Concerned breeders were urged to contact their veterinarians or the state veterinarian's office.

CEM was first detected in the United States in 1978 in central Kentucky, and another outbreak occurred in Missouri in 1979. It was eradicated in both instances.

Now since the article it has hit hard and has not only been found in Kentucky but other states as well.
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Triple J Quarter Horses

Triple J Quarter Horses


Number of posts : 2228
Age : 64
Location : Western Kentucky
Registration date : 2007-02-08

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 9th 2009, 11:34 am

CEM probe continues, affects 563 horses in 46 states

Feb 11, 2009
DVM NEWSMAGAZINE



National Report -- Federal and state veterinary officials continue to look for the source of an outbreak of contagious equine metritis (CEM) that now affects at least 563 horses in 46 states.
Since the first confirmed case, in a Quarter Horse stallion in Kentucky on Dec. 15, a total of 11 stallions and one mare have been confirmed positive for Taylorella equigenitalis, the causative organism for the reproductive disease that is transmitted through natural breeding or artificial insemination.

The positive stallions, all identified by the USDA's National Veterinary Services Laboratories, include three in Indiana, four in Kentucky, one in Texas and three in Wisconsin, and the one positive mare is in Wisconsin, according to USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS).

The Texas and Indiana stallions were on the central Kentucky premises during the 2008 breeding season. The Wisconsin stallions, while never in Kentucky, were co-located during at least one Wisconsin breeding season with one of the positive stallions that had been on the Kentucky site in 2008. The positive Wisconsin mare was bred to one of the positive stallions in Wisconsin.

Besides the 12 positive horses, 551 other horses are known to have been exposed to the disease, and another 33 exposed horses (31 mares and two stallions) are being traced.

All 563 are under quarantine or hold order, and testing and treatment procedures are ongoing.

An exposed horse is defined as one that was bred, naturally or artificially, to a positive horse or one that is epidemiologically linked to a positive horse.

CEM is treated with antibiotics and disinfectants. Positive mares undergo a treatment process and are quarantined at least 21 days. Positive stallions stay under quarantine until they complete treatment and test negative for the disease
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paintedpastures

paintedpastures


Number of posts : 10
Age : 60
Location : alberta
Registration date : 2008-04-05

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 10th 2009, 3:17 pm

I was going to ship this year but decided against.I had an rebreed after my mare failed to settle with previous AI breeding.I had already sunk alot of $$$ into the breeding with no baby to show for it.I was going to use a replacement mare this season but with the added restrictions & extra cost it was too big a gamble to throw away even more money with no garantee of pregnancy. Was time to just cut my losses No
No babies this year & don't think i'll be doing any breeding agian this year either.Good time to start directing my focus on getting my younger ones riding instead! riding
Here is a good link expaining the CEM & shipping requirements to Canada.
http://www.equine-reproduction.com/index.shtml

That Formulaone horse is nice RF.too bad things didn't work out.
And MW So glad I help you find him Neutral......maybe some day you may breed to him,or find one around here you'd like to breed to.
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Mare

Mare


Number of posts : 522
Age : 62
Location : Montana
Registration date : 2007-04-16

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 10th 2009, 6:33 pm

reiningfan wrote:
I was supposed to be breeding to this stallion www.sbrformulaone.com, but with increased regulations about shipping semen over the border, we can't do it this year. I'm keeping our booking and will hopefully be able to breed Freckles to him next spring.
Has CEM affected any of you at all?

I have had him in my thoughts on breeding to next year. I should breed this year but dang I just dont know. What mare were you breeding to him?
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reiningfan

reiningfan


Number of posts : 699
Age : 49
Location : Manitoba, Canada
Registration date : 2007-02-13

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 12th 2009, 11:37 am

I was planning on breeding Freckles to him, our little chestnut cow bred mare. Brennen would have liked to have bred Sandy to him as well. Although I was talking to Sandy's breeder yesterday and she was asking about buying Sandy again. Brennen wont sell her, but he might work out a breeding lease on her. The stallion she'd likely breed Sandy to is this one http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smart+lil+marmoset. His dam won about $80K cutting. What he'd like is a foal from that cross.
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Bluejay

Bluejay


Number of posts : 2415
Age : 68
Location : Oregon
Registration date : 2007-02-07

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PostSubject: Re: Has CEM affected you?   Has CEM affected you? Icon_minitimeMarch 14th 2009, 9:28 pm

OK, so CEM is VD.. Good Lord, what will it be next? I know Herpes is every where as well. GAUD.. Rolling Eyes
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