He's Here!!!!

Mare wrote:

He does have some black in his tail and some black long hair in his mane above the withers and looks like his legs will shed off dark. Can Pali's have black in their tails or do they have to be blonde?

WOW much lighter out in the sunshine! You've got yourself a beautiful golden pally there! GORGEOUS!

ETA: Oh and DUH! i so did not read where you said the sire was a cremello! LOL Your only options there when bred to a bay were pally, buckskin and smokey black! haha I need to read better I guess?

Definetly a pally

Oh and when it comes to "chocolate" pally's... they are really just a sooty palomino... Sooty can easily be seen on bay mares... It looks as if someone took some soot and sprinkled it over them... either heavily, or lightly.

That would be my luck. He was already spoken for if it came out a Buckskin Stud colt. Oh well I'm sure there will be someone out there that wants a Pali. If not I'll just add another one to my collection.
Thanks for the help on the color guessing.

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Without seeing a full body shot of the baby you posted T-J, I would call him a bay (it looks like his mane is black?). Its actually surprising how many horses are born with counter shading and mock dorsals. Since its hard to tell, usually you look for atleast 2 "pieces" of dun factor on them, and a dorsal stripe should be one of those.

She shed off Liver Chestnut. She tricked us all with Bleeding over the shoulders, Dorsal, and Barring... She was out of a Palomino. Not a yellow dun but Palomino and sorrel.
From all I have been told and reading I have done, They tell me, U Of Davis, and AQHA tell me, Dun cannot skip a generation.
This foal could be tested to tell you what you have! ?????????????????????

Triple J Quarter Horses wrote:

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Without seeing a full body shot of the baby you posted T-J, I would call him a bay (it looks like his mane is black?). Its actually surprising how many horses are born with counter shading and mock dorsals. Since its hard to tell, usually you look for atleast 2 "pieces" of dun factor on them, and a dorsal stripe should be one of those.

She shed off Liver Chestnut. She tricked us all with Bleeding over the shoulders, Dorsal, and Barring... She was out of a Palomino. Not a yellow dun but Palomino and sorrel.
From all I have been told and reading I have done, They tell me, U Of Davis, and AQHA tell me, Dun cannot skip a generation.
This foal could be tested to tell you what you have! ?????????????????????

wow tricky tricky eh? before I knew color genetics I could not for the life of me figure out what my pally stud and dun mare had produced... turns out she's a dunskin. That filly is very pretty T-J! But red to red always throws a red... different shades of course but thats it. Put the cream gene on one of the red parents, and all you can get is red or pally.

And nope, dun cannot skip a generation... Really no gene's can. Maybe on one parent is not visible...for exampe.... you breed a black to a red and get a bay, That tells you the red carried agouti. Thats why when I do color combo's all I need to know is colors of parents, because they are the one's who determine babies color. Grey is the only touchy one... unless someone knew or owned them when they were young and knew their color base... its hard since grey is a modifier as well.

A cremello bred to a bay can only produce a buckskin, pally or smokey black (they simply look black, but when you have a double dilute parent, you know for sure it carries the cream gene.)

Mare - I would not test this foal... all that you dont know is wether he got agouti or not... since he's red based, if he had agouti you wouldnt see it. Double Dilute sire, bay dam, you have a pally if he was buckskin, you would see even a tiny bit of black on his legs.

This is what I saw that made me think he would have black legs. His front leg with the black line going up. So I thought it would shed off black.
I never get this color thing figured out.

I see a dark Nose too. Im still going with Buckskin.

My mare is getting bred back today so I hope the little girls out swim the boys this year. Fingers crossed that she takes on the first try. Now she will be bred to WD TO A SHEIK. So we hope to have a Paint girl next year.

Put a Pink Tail Wrap on! Have them whisper THINK PINK!

Thats funny because I did try that two years ago. The vet thought I was nuts but he knows that anyway. Well it backfired on me. I wish they would just come out geldings. I just hate going through the stud colt stage.

The lil fillies are the slow swimmers. So, pray for the slow ones not the fast ones and you might get lucky this time and get some color to boot...

Speaking of vets, My Vet knew how bad I wanted a Palomino filly, A Friend of mine and I bred to the same stallion, He was Pally, both mares were Sorrels. My mare ultrasounded in foal, when is came time for theirs, My vet put on the Ultrasound for them Pally Filly... Just to tease me and guess what??? They got one. So the next year I told the Vet, PUT PALLY FILLY ON MY ULTRA SOUND.. He wouldnt! BRAT! I got one anyway.. HA!