Hairy Coat

My little stud colt still has his fur and one heck of a winter coat.
All my other horses are shed out almost slick. Should I shave him or
what? He sweats like a mad dog. Today it was 80 degrees and he was hot.
I feel bad for him. And he looks scruffy as all get out!

One of my favorite tricks is to do a round of worming every two weeks for three cycles.. Even if you worm on a regular basis this works.. GROOM GROMM GROOM.. I would not shave at this point..

Let me make sure I understand this correctly. You give a full dose
every two weeks until they've reached 3 doses? What does this do? I just wormed 2 weeks ago with Zimectrin gold. Do I need to change types of wormers like when you rotate?

Yeah, I've been wondering about that because I've heard people say intensive worming helps shed a winter coat and I'm not sure why that would help. What formulations of wormers do you have to use or does it matter. Details please!!!

Worming does help shed a coat. Can't explain why, but it does.

Some colors of horses have thicker haircoats, or at least it seems to me.

The sorrel gelding that's been outside, is still fuzzy, so is his sister.

His mom is a chestnut, and she's literally molting, I'm talking plunks of hair off at a time, but she's an older broodmare.

Scamp's up in the barn, has never had more than a nylon on him, and he's close to having a show coat.

Jazz, guess because she's been up north, she's been in the big blankets and looks to just now starting to shed.

Time for a good all-around worming for everybody. I firmly believe in the Panacur Power Pak, at least for horses up in the barn that you're getting ready to show.

I use the power pac from panacur as well it is a larvacidal worming there is nothing else that will do that if he is a yearling you can buy a regular full horse dose panacur and use that for 5 days in a row the cheapest place to buy the power pac I have found is valley vet for 53.95... well worth it all my new horses get a power pac and anything not up to snuff. Don't forget to follow up with probiotics. My vet encourages us to do this with all of our show horses that are off our premises and anything new we buy.

Sandy has hardly any hair coat and I'm in full winter up here. I attribute it to regular worming, a blanket, and the lights. But I was suprized at how much less coat she has now than last year at same time. The worming is really the only thing different. Hard to believe, but it does seem to work.
I think 7Cedars is right. My sorrels all seem to have more hair.

I rotate the wormers and the last one is gentle like safeguard or something like that.. I use full does and then some (do not use Quest).

Here is why it works.. The larva from parasites hatch every two weeks.. These larva are not killed by worming until they hatch.. So, doing this every two weeks breaks the cycle.. Make sense? This is one way to take a horse that is thin and looking poorly and bring it back around.. I do this all the time and I use daily wormer on top of it..

This will not hurt your horse.. I do not use the panacure pack for the reason of the two week hatching of the darn little larva.. The 5 day pack does not resolve that problem..

I do this with my wenalings too.. They get their first worming at 1 month old.. That teddy bear fuzZ starts coming off.. I do not do the 3 cycle until they are weaned and on their own. I do worm them every month though.

Quest is about the only wormer you can overdose your horse on that I know of..

Cool! I am doing this! Thank you so much.



I've heard way to many bad things about Quest too, like colic and overdose. I wish they'd pull the stuff.

Over does is true about Quest and it can and has killed them. It should be removed.. NEVER GIVE IT TO YOUR FOAL!!!! I know some people who were doing that and the plunger was defective. The foal got he whole tube. It paralized her neck and killer her.. Quest would not pay for the foal even after admitting it was a decfective plundger.. Paralizing the neck ishow it kills the parasites..

I read a great article (can't fine it now) about how much you can give of the other brands and not hurt the horse. If I ever see it again I will paste a link to it..

Let use know how this works. I brought in a gelding who really looked bad. I had to do this cycle twice on him. I waited a month in between the cycles.. MAN did he take off and really turned out nice. He was Sir Cool Skip bred. I put that hip right back on him and he turned out that loucious bay color..

I've heard that about Quest, as well, and I've never used it.

Panacur, Safeguard, and Zimecterin (especially Gold) is the only ones I use.

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I read a great article (can't fine it now) about how much you can give of the other brands and not hurt the horse.

We had a safeguard rep come to the feed store I worked at...at the end of his pitch he consumed a whole tube of the stuff! SOLD!

Ok, with the probiotics...do you do that after each dose of de-wormer, or after the process as a whole?

Where's Tara and Neal? They know this stuff real well too

My horse all get Fast Track every day. That is a probiotic..

It was amazing what I read about the different wormers... It said some of them you can give up to 20 times the dose and there are no bad effects.. Now, I have no plans of ever doing that. But, it sure put my mind at ease to know that I was not going to hurt them if I was off by 10lb.. I really did worry about that.. Same with worming my foals.. I had no idea you need to start at 1 month old. I was waiting until they were weaned...

On the probiotics it depends on you... if your horse is in training and stressed daily is good, if your horse is sick and on antibiotics after the antibiotics is a must, after you worm is a must and after foaling, any time a horse is stressed it is good to give a dose or 2 of probiotics they increase the good bacteria in the hind gut therefore the horse is better able to digest their hay, without the bacteria in the hind gut they can't digest their hay as well and you don't get the maximum benefit of your feed hence the hay belly. With foals if your foal has scours my vet has us give yogurt 35-50cc and it always clears it up this is because they don't have those probiotics and yogurt does.

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without the bacteria in the hind gut they can't digest their hay as well and you don't get the maximum benefit of your feed hence the hay belly

Hmm...I wonder if that's what's going on with my coming yearling Leon... I deworn him every 1-2 months, rotate my deworms yada yada yada...but he STILL has this funny little gut...or maybe it's his belly markings throwing me off?

Markings can fool you.. And, some horses that are short backed have what I call a big barrel..

I have used Fast Track for years.. All my horses get it. I give my new borns Foal Response now as soon as they are born and do not get the foal diarrhea. I have tried several things like Probias and Fast Track Paste and not had any luck with it stopping the diarrhea.. I hate that and you have to keep them clean or it burns the hair off their sweet little buns...

Would not hurt to give him the round of worming and the probiotics. And, I know people who use the plain yogurt and swear by it.. It's all good stuff....

I sure agree with the short backed comment these short backed preggy mares of mine are so huge right now poor things the one due this next week lays down and just grunts trying to breath HAVE IT ALREADY before you explode poor baby

Hey guys this has been fascinating reading Thank~you We have TOTALLY different regimes this side of the pond

I have a big mare who will not lay down... I watch her from in the houes... She will not lay down no way.... OMG.. I feel so sorry for her. Once baby comes she will rest. Otherwise she shifts from one foot to the other.. Makes me tired watching her...

Those short backs make it impossible to get that nice line undernieth them.. If you could only put a girdle on them:scratch:



Jools, tell us your remmidies from the other side of the pond... I would really like to hear about it....PLZ and Thank you

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Yep we do things a tad differently Invermectin/moxitectin/Panacur all have differing dosing frequencies from 6-13 weeks regularity
We also have labs that test the manure for worm levels I check mine regularly to check that my regime is effective
There are theories afoot that worms are becoming resistant to worming products
I use a TOTALLY different wormer to EVERYONE I know It is a gut friendly liquid 50mls monthly Job Done I have been usuing it for 5 years I swear by it I add it to their short feed It can be added to water also
My 3 geldings also are turned out with the cattle This really seems to help with cross roation & worm burden My American horses are not out with the cows so I keep a special eye on them
My old dressage horse is 17.3hh A REAL GENT in every respect EXCEPT worming syringes It makes life fabulous not to need to hire a crane every few months
I hope this has been interesting & not too boring or confusing
Fingers crossed that I have not timed out AGAIN

hey Jools what is that stuff called? sounds good... Peppy is on the daily wormer stuff at the new trainers and I am looking forward to seeing how he has responded to it when I get to see him at the Wichita show mid March. Ive never used it personally but I think it really makes sense for a trainer.

Hey Lynn It is made by a firm called Science with Nature
As I say I have used the product for over 5 years I REALLY T.O.T.A.L.L.Y. believe in it
In the last few years they have added to their product list other products they do that I SWEAR by equally LICE TICK & FLEA repellent This is also a liquid nothing illegal non conforming to Jockey Club Illegal substance rules Again added to water or feed I find it BRILLIANT for the dogs & cats too I am on a farm & have real trouble with all my stock(dogs & cats too) with Foxes Badgers & deer bringing in unwanted creepy crawlies (don't get me onto T.B.) dang badgers/deer they have herbal shampoo products & even herbal midge itch preventers I don't use that because as you may have read earlier I make up something of my own The company are up in Yorkshire they really should go to you guys over the pond it works & is gentle for the horses plus it doesn't cost the earth


The dogs cats & cows also have 100% success rate with ALL the products too
Hope this helps any more info give me a shout





How are all the mommas & the NEWBI

FINALLY! The hair is coming off my wooly mammoth! I'll have to try and
snap some pics tomorrow if it's not raining so I have a good before
pic. It is mid 70 to 80's and he still has a thick coat and he sweats
like a mad dog.

I did the whole wormer thing, plus put him on daily wormer!