What are your thoughts on the matter. HYPP??

Hehe as long as n/n not a problem. I dont agree with N/H but thats my opinion, we have enough horses in the gene pool to not breed from N/H horses.

People should test for EPSM or PSSM as that can be just as bad,heartbreaking to see and painful for the horse. My friends horse has it as her mare carried it without her knowing, she has bred several foals from her and most of them have it.

i think that buying a horse or breeding one that is hypp n/h is a vet bill waiting to happen. some people dont think its a problem. they say oh ill just buy up all the NH horses for super cheap. Well go right a head. both my colts are nn and i have nothing worry about.
why be worried?

I dont get it..... Why buy a horse knowing that something can set them off! Maybe or Maybe not, but it is there, you know it is there. Why breed for this defect???

I wouldnt breed to an N/H stud. There are to many nice N/N ones out there.

JJJ I know why you feel like you do. And, others who have never experienced owning an NH horse should have no opinion since they don't know.

One person says there are big vet bills breeding NH.. I say WHY Others say there are worse things and I totally agree with that.

Some think that NH gives you the edge in the show pen. I say no it doesn't.

As far as I am concerned the only problem with an NH horse is your limits to who you can breed them to. I have owned them. And, if I like an NH stallion I would not hesitate to breed my NN mare to him. It doesn't bother me AT ALL..

And for those who really don't know about HYPP and the market. I have always gotten way more money to an NH horse then my NN ones..

That's my story and I am sticking to it..

We cant market an HYPP horse in our area. I have owned them, One with not one bit of extra expense. Of corse she died in foal to Mr. Yella Fella, after we put over 100 AQHA points on her. She was 12. After the epoxy (I know that is spelt wrong) They said it was HYPP. She was very healthy, Happy, and we loved her dearly. Dearly enough that I will not put myself threw that again. Knowing it is a DEFECT! That is life threatening. At anymoment with our warning, as in her case. You know putting that horse at risk.

Is this better for the breed? Are we improving the breed? Yes, Id say HERDA is worse. The PSSM. Id say that is worse. But the whole point is. If you know your stallion or mare can pass on these defects why would you breed them? IS not the point to breed for the improvement of the breed and not promote the DEFECTS? Can a person in good faith, breed on purpose to get HYPP?

None of this is going to better the breed. It just makes it worse and carries it fruther down the lines. Then, spreds it in to the other breeds.

Strange thing is it's not just horses.. There are pigs and cattle with the same things going on. They just call it some thing different.

Humans that have gene's they can pass on are still having children. I think this just goes on and on.

One of the differnences between HYPP and HERDA though is that those of us breeding cow horses are not breeding for HERDA, whereas some halter people do indeed breed for N/H horses. In my program, a HERDA positive foal would be not only a terrible thing, but a money loss. An N/H horse can, like BlueJay said, bring more money to the seller. So it keeps on going. Another difference is that with HERDA, you have a carrier satus where they are unaffected, but it can still be tested for. With HYPP, there is N/N, but no carrier status where you can ever really say they are unaffected.
I, personally, would never buy or breed an HYPP horse, but I respect people's rights to do what they want. I may not agree with it, but my opinion isn't likely to stop anyone.

Dont forget the dreaded PSSM thats creeping in more and more, horses should be tested for this aswell

reiningfan

Sorry, but if your horse is NN it's not a carrier and needs nothing to say that. The gene is not there and cannot be passed on period. I have bred my mares to NH horses. Not to get one. But, simply because I like the stud and has nothing to do with it. If I get one I don't care. It's not a death sentence.

You also stated that people do not breed for HERDA, You are right about that. But, they still take a chance when they breed Poco lines (which is why we have HERDA to begin with). He is so out date that he is falling way back on the pedigree anyway.

And, then there is all the other stuff popping up. UGH Lets not forget the OLWS.. People cross them all the time. There is only 25% chance you will get a lethal. I would NEVER take that gamble. I couldn't stand it.

We all sit around and talk about our horses faults. No one ever brings up quality. Like nice straight legs, good feet and bone, BRAIN, pretty like the breed should be, or crossing what ever to what ever just to apease ourselves. There are way more unwanted and grade horse out there who suffer way more then an HYPP horse. At least it normally gets taken care of the way it should be cared for.. BLAH BLAH BLAH..

HYPP is just one of many problems we have today with our horses.. Some are much worse. I don't promote it. I think we should all feel lucky it we produce a horse that is healthy, correct, pretty and has a great mind to go with it.

And, if we accomplish that we can hope the horse does not end up with colic, lamness, ulcers or some other new found problem. There are just too many things that can happen.